This week, Mike and Jo unravel the fascinating 107-year journey of Gravely – a brand that’s more than just a name in the industry. The boys pull no punches as they tackle some contentious issues like planned obsolescence and value engineering, John Deere's "Right to Repair" lawsuit, and getting more kids into the trades. Also: Top Gun.
This week, Mike and Jo unravel the fascinating 107-year journey of Gravely – a brand that’s more than just a name in the industry. The boys pull no punches as they tackle some contentious issues like planned obsolescence and value engineering, John Deere's "Right to Repair" lawsuit, and getting more kids into the trades. Also: Top Gun.
Whether we're exploring the latest in trucking technology, talking about the trends that propel the industry forward, or uncovering stories about the dedicated individuals who keep the wheels of America turning, this is where the roar of the engines and the pulse of progress come together. It's sublime, it's surreal. That's the Heavy Equipment Podcast with Mike and Joe.
Speaker 2:Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Heavy Equipment Podcast. I'm your host, joe Borus, here with Mike Switzer, and you know it's nice, it's getting a little cool outside. We've got some snow on the ground. It's, you know, the passage of time and the passage of seasons, how you doing, buddy.
Speaker 3:Oh, not too bad. Not too bad. We got some snow already. It's gone. Now we're back to Portland weather.
Speaker 2:It's just gray and miserable and cold and wet.
Speaker 3:It was snow, rain, snow rain all day today, but it just needs to pick one thing. Actually, it needs the snow so we can blow snow into the neighbor's driveway. That's what I want to be able to do Snowblower myself.
Speaker 2:I'm ready to become the dominant alpha dad of the suburban block here and just row out the entire neighborhood. They think I got an RV back there. They have no idea what's coming.
Speaker 3:Well, it could be. It could be an old Winnebago with a snowblower mounted to the front of it.
Speaker 2:It's a 1997 international 4,700.
Speaker 3:You know they used to have. They used to have flame boxes that would melt the snow right on the sidewalks, so you'd get the right of the ice and everything. Maybe that's why some of those old sidewalks are so horrible.
Speaker 2:It's like Santa Andreas fault lines through the sidewalk because of the flamethrower. Do you remember that year that I was up there in Ohio and I got stuck in that horrific blizzard on I-80? And I followed the snow truck?
Speaker 3:home.
Speaker 2:That was my only choice. I had to go behind the Brian truck. I got pickled for two and a half hours back there.
Speaker 3:I remember you were so grateful. You were like, oh, you know, the only thing that saved me. I got behind this big state truck, these orange and green flashing lights, and we were, we were mortified. We were like how long were you behind that guy? You were like, and as he turned off, another one would turn on the road and I followed them all the way here. We were like that van is going to disintegrate.
Speaker 2:It disintegrate, but not that night. Yeah, that's right, not that night. That van was sick. I pity the second owner, though.
Speaker 3:Oh, there wasn't one. It got turned in and then it just, it just turned into an amalgamated cube of trustees.
Speaker 1:Amalgamated Dynamax.
Speaker 2:That's like one of those no-fertrion manufacturers for the turbo-encabulator. You don't like that word huh, absolutely.
Speaker 3:The no-fertrion is in the turbo-encabulator.
Speaker 2:That's right, that was a great one. We'll run that clip right now.
Speaker 4:For a number of years now, work has been proceeding in order to bring perfection to the crudely conceived idea of a transmission that would not only supply inverse reactive current for use in unilateral phase detractors, but would also be capable of automatically synchronizing cardinal grammeters. Such an instrument is the turbo-encabulator Now. Basically, the only new principle involved is that, instead of power being generated by the relative motion of conductors and fluxes, it is produced by the modial interaction of magnetorelectants and capacitive directants. The original machine had a base plate of prefamulated amulite surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two spurving bearings were in a direct line with a panometric fam. The latter consisted simply of six hydrocoptic marzol veins so fitted to the ambiphation lunar wane shaft.
Speaker 4:That side fumbling was effectively prevented. The main winding was of the normal lotus-o-delta type, placed in panendermic semi-boloid slots of the stator, every seventh conductor being connected by a non-reversible trummy pipe to the differential girdle spring on the up end of the Grammys. The turbo-encabulator has now reached a high level of development, and it's being successfully used in the operation of nofertronions. Moreover, whenever a fluorescent score motion is required, it may also be employed in conjunction with a drawn reciprocation dingalarm to reduce soynosoidal re-planaration. It's not cheap, but I'm sure the government will buy it.
Speaker 3:You know what has a lot of nofertronions.
Speaker 2:No, I don't.
Speaker 3:Gravely.
Speaker 2:Oh, that brings us to our trivia of the day. December 5th 2023 marks the 107th anniversary of the filing of the Gravely Rotary Tool patents.
Speaker 3:Little did they know 107 years ago that sometime in the peak 50s and 60s, men in their plaid pants and white shoes would be out there in their suburban sulky getting their balls beat to death by a bar. They're getting caught up in a tree with a 40-inch deck. That was too small anyways for their giant estate. But was power versus drudgery? That was the mission back then. How smart they were.
Speaker 2:How smart they were. This is one you may not know. You know the name of Mr Gravely, is it Peter? No, peter Grave, peter Graves is a totally different guy. Now this is Benjamin Franklin Gravely. He's got over 65 patents on farm implements, tractor tools and attachments and some of these. If you ever go through the patent files they just read like if someone got really, really drunk one night was like wait, wait, wait. What if we strapped seven chainsaws to a bigger circular saw and just whip that thing around? But you can ride behind it on skis.
Speaker 3:That's exactly what it is. It's two wheels and death. That's it.
Speaker 2:That's called the cultivator blade and the power operated sickle mower and that patent was awarded July 18th 1950. Go look that one up.
Speaker 3:You know I gotta give them credit. We've talked about them before. Nobody builds a product like Gravely did back then. Studer Baker bought them and then they marketed the hell out of it. Yeah, and when Studer Baker marketing got a hold of that place, Studer Baker had their shit together just like Saab born from jets man.
Speaker 2:those born from jets commercials were awesome. They were.
Speaker 3:You thought you were gonna go out and buy a top gun fighter plane.
Speaker 2:The music starts up.
Speaker 3:You know, I mean they should have just handed out a goose and maverick helmet with every Saab that they sold General Motors. They would have bought General Motors if that's what would have happened. See, what they needed is Studer, Baker and Kenworth marketing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, kenworth had some good marketing back in the day.
Speaker 3:Always, always, kenworth Packers got him. Now they do a good job with that, but no, they always had good marketing. I mean, look, they gave three trucks of Smokey and the Bandit biggest truck in the movie of all time.
Speaker 2:End of story. That's it, they're done.
Speaker 3:They cemented their place in history without one move, guy, literally walked out of the parking lot I heard this story and when Smokey and the Bandit aired and it was in all the movie theaters, reviews were rolling in and they were looking at the proceeds and they were like that can't be right. I mean, the wave was just, they were waiting for it to die and it never died because people kept going to the movie theater over and over again to watch it. How could you not? You're like we are Kenworth, yeah.
Speaker 3:Have you ever seen any old school dealers with the big neon lights above the dealership?
Speaker 2:Not in years and years. We used to drive from Salisbury, north Carolina. We would drive down to see family in Florida and we would drive by a couple of those because there was the Reynolds aluminum plant was up there and there was a couple of truck dealers around there that as soon as you got on the highway you'd go by them, especially through South Carolina and stuff You'd see them. But we're talking the 80s. I mean by then that was kind of past the heyday of the real truck shops.
Speaker 3:So let's talk about that for a minute. So you got Kenworth right and they hit their giant neon glowing signs that had been out for a long time and that only got amplified after Smokey and the Bandit. And then you had Gravely. Gravely was like this little tin sign hanging above an alleyway door opening and people would come as like mystical as a cogwork. You go in there and there's a guy in there. He's missing two fingers. He's in there working on your new Gravely and you just knew you were about to get something that was so manly and so special but yet it could kill you at any moment.
Speaker 2:That's what made it manly and special.
Speaker 3:They put duals on a two-wheel drive motoring mechanism. That's what they did.
Speaker 2:You could walk in there as a six-year-old, hairless innocent and walk out of there covered head to toe like Sasquatch, 11 feet tall, with your Gravely Yukon Cornelius, that's what you look like when you come out of there. That's exactly what you look like when you come out of there.
Speaker 3:You put your prospector pick out of the ground. Looked it twice and went. We got to mow it again.
Speaker 2:Listen, man Yukon Cornelius had a revolver, a knife and a pickaxe loaded on the belt, ahead of the hips, ready for easy action.
Speaker 3:He knew what was up, he knew what was going down. He had a Gravely in his shed behind his wood burner.
Speaker 2:Yet he ain't coming over here.
Speaker 3:No, no, that was the other thing 107 years. Think about that. There's a lot of stuff that's been around a hundred years as you're dead. Yeah, exactly yeah, nostradamus, or whatever the hell we're calling them these days. But no think about that 107 years, guy Fodd, for these patents. They're still releasing product on the Gravely brand.
Speaker 2:They are good product too. I mean, it seems like it holds up just as well Probably not just as well as the original, because there is some planned obsolescence here and there does leak into it Value engineering.
Speaker 3:That's no one can afford to build a two wheel tractor. Okay, think about this. Think about what I said before duals. And then they had tire chains for those, because not only did I wrap it around the tree with the single tires, but if I had them duals on there, I'd have got it out from that tree, got the tree out along the way. That's the point. You knock the tree over and you keep going. It's like the, it's like the mower from moving. With Richard Pryor, we got to put that clip in there.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, it's Frank Cronin.
Speaker 2:The man's got maybe 30 square feet of lawn right. He's on a lawn truck, I believe you lawn tractor, come back to bed I can't sleep. The noise I mean, listen to that thing. It's like a 20 ton jack.
Speaker 3:The chainsaw drops, cuts the tree off. It's a big, real mower. He built it in his garage so not everybody could have back in the day the luxury of casting something the size of an N 14 Cummins block and putting two wheels under it. That's what they had cast iron in those things. You couldn't hurt them. He had a, basically a lanko underneath an Indian engine with two wheels hooked to it in a trans axle made out of cast iron. You can't deal with that. You're not going to break it.
Speaker 2:I love how we started real nicely with the script going into and you could fix those things yourself. Perfectly smooth segue into the John Deere write to repair lawsuit. And then we got all excitable about the duals and the tire chains and the castings and now it's out the window. Let's talk about that because the right to repair is getting thrown out. Now, okay, there's a class action lawsuit put together by a bunch of farmers against John Deere saying that they meaning Deere Deere needs to make it so that the trouble codes and the software codes are available for them to be able to work on and service the tractors on their own side and or at least go to a service center of their choosing to have it worked on.
Speaker 2:Deere says no, no, no, it's an intellectual property thing. We can't have our stuff spied on. There's a safety issue, quality control. They got all kinds of excuses and they filed a motion in court to drop the lawsuit under these kind of business protections and intellectual property rights. And the judge. This has just happened. Last Friday, the US District Court for the Northern District of Illinois, western Division, has ruled that an antitrust suit may continue against John Deere regarding right to repair of its agricultural equipment. That is, according to Judge Ian D Johnston, who issued the order last week.
Speaker 3:Let me tell you they don't want that going to trial. No, they don't. They will immediately lose. I'm going to tell you you can't put together a jury that is going to look at that and go yeah, there's nothing wrong with that?
Speaker 2:Here's the concern, right? The concern is that it may not go to a jury trial. It may be arbitrated by a judge who maybe doesn't like antitrust, who maybe lives in the same district as Deere and he's got some political aspirations. But the only thing that's going to happen here is effectively, deere is going to lose one way or the other. I think they're going to lose. They're going to appeal it, it's going to go to the Supreme Court and then we're going to have a real question of right to repair in this country and there's going to have to be some kind of ruling. And this is going to be something that's not just going to affect farm equipment, it's not just going to affect John Deere.
Speaker 3:It's everything you can plug into.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I mean, we're talking about your phone, we're talking about your television, we're talking about everything that you buy and own, because here's something that people don't really understand In 2023, 2024, we're almost into you don't actually own a lot of the stuff that you quote, unquote buy, right, like there's a lot of people who buy their movies on Amazon or through Apple TV or whatever it is. You don't own that. You have a license to that to watch it as many times as you want, as long as that movie studio has an active deal with that company. There's a ton of people who bought movies on their Sony PlayStation through Sony's service.
Speaker 2:The last couple of days, those movies disappeared because, as of December 1st, they no longer have a deal with Warner Brothers. So if you had, like Batman movies on your Sony PlayStation, if you had Space Jam on there, you were watching, all of a sudden nobody said you didn't pay for it. Nobody said you don't own that license, but Sony doesn't have a deal with Warner Brothers anymore. So you woke up that morning and you don't have your movies that you paid for, and you're going to see more and more of this, where you may own your iPhone but you don't own the software that's running it. And guess what happens if Apple decides that they don't want to support that software anymore? You don't have a phone, you've got a brick.
Speaker 3:Right, and you bring up a good point about not really owning the product in which you have spent money on. That happens throughout this country on many levels. That's right. If your house is mortgaged, your car's financed, your phone's financed and all your other things are financed through 12 months 0% interest, equal payments, you don't own it until it's paid for and you may have it in your possession, but someone may come and take it from you if you can't pay for it. Yeah, there's a lot of real issues there. We're not going to dive down because this isn't a political podcast. There's many of them. You can get on there and search anywhere you find podcasts Go check out Dan Carlin's Common Sense.
Speaker 2:It's great stuff Exactly.
Speaker 3:So what I'm getting at is that the banks and the people that finance such equipment need to take heed of what is about to happen, because the stuff that they have financed, that their money is out there for, has not totally have a guaranteed product anymore.
Speaker 2:Wow, I didn't know where you were going with that, but that's a really Nobody did, nobody did.
Speaker 3:There's guys in the background. People can't see the studio, but guys in the back are waving going. What are you talking? They're pointing at the cue card telling me I'm way off here, but anyways.
Speaker 2:No, but that's right, because think about that You're a bank. You're going to make an equipment loan to a company. They're going to go out and buy five or six autonomous excavators, right? So the company buys these excavators, they're making installment payments on it, and now the company that provides the software decides we're not going to support that product anymore. It's not going to be a part of our business plan going forward. Thanks to everybody who gave us money for one of these. And now that thing stops working. Now the guy is going to default on his loan because he can't put those things to work to make money from them.
Speaker 3:He will win because the product, yes, he will owe money, but the product, if under warranty, is not usable.
Speaker 2:That's right. Taking a step further Now the bank is going to repossess a product that is a paper.
Speaker 4:It's useless.
Speaker 2:Now, there's a lot of money behind the OEMs. There's a lot of money behind these computer and hardware manufacturers, device manufacturers Samsung, lg, motorola, whatever else. But you know who's got more money than those guys is the banks.
Speaker 3:I'm going to quote Dan Aykroyd in this and we are on the verge of a three-way cross-rep, not only of dynamic proportions, but biblical.
Speaker 1:I'm worried, ray. It's getting crowded in there and all my recent data points to something big on the horizon. What do you mean?
Speaker 4:the big.
Speaker 1:Well, let's say this Twinkie represents the normal amount of psychokinetic energy in the New York area. According to this morning's sample, it would be a Twinkie 35 feet long, weighing approximately 600 pounds.
Speaker 4:That's a big Twinkie.
Speaker 2:How big is the Twinkie Michael? How big is this financing Twinkie that's about to come down upon us all, if this right to repair thing don't?
Speaker 3:happen and gravely opened the seventh seal, and Behind it was a matte red cloth.
Speaker 2:Choose the form of your destructor 700 foot, gravely cards going down Manhattan Buildings are just flying.
Speaker 3:Everybody would look at me and they'd be like what did you do, mike? What did you do? And I would stare off blankly and I'd go. I remember my childhood in the backyard Mowing the grass, with that sweet smell and the however ending hum of the gravely single cylinder purring away. And then this wielding fire of death is gonna take you off the building.
Speaker 2:And there's no cross, you can't even breathe. This is there.
Speaker 3:I love when I get you this point. You can't even believe what's coming out of my mouth.
Speaker 2:Usually I can't believe what's going into it, so this is a totally new.
Speaker 3:You know, yeah, I should just write copy for used equipment. That's what I should do, good, That'd be a good business. Actually, that is a good business. I think we should start looking into that when you get somebody, gets a used piece of equipment they call Mike and Joe. Look at that window, lean forward. It remembers once upon the time it released itself across this world. Then the brand new rubber of Firestone was underneath its heels. And they only just go with it. Just run with it, send us your leads.
Speaker 3:We'll handle this we will sell that stuff faster than you've ever sold anything or went to the bathroom.
Speaker 2:We should choose a piece of equipment, will choose an asset and we'll write some copy for it. We'll read that at the end of the, at the end of the episodes. I think it'd be a good one.
Speaker 3:I remember in 2009, we probably could have cleaned up on that. When they couldn't give away equipment, the guys were literally drinking pep though, sitting on the toilet trying to figure out how they're gonna keep their house. That was real. That was real and you know, we probably could have wrote a lot of copy and sold a lot of stuff, okay, but, like I don't know, we ain't got the money for. But we're gonna go get it.
Speaker 2:We just sold all that to the Saudis would have been great. Oh yeah, airdrop all that Galladarian, call us up and be like I don't know what you guys are talking about, my brothers, but I will take them all.
Speaker 3:And therefore the national debt was settled we handled it.
Speaker 2:We don't need no corporate bailout. We got this boys back on off Everybody's gonna want a Patagonia.
Speaker 2:Why are we shipping these to Patagonia? Don't worry about it. Check clear. That's all you need to know. All right, but yeah, so there's a lot to unpack here. This right to repair thing obviously has the potential to send ripples through economies and markets that we don't understand. But this is not the only reason that deer is in the news. This week, they have put out their own little press release. They are hoping to have a completely autonomous farm in operation by 2030 they'll do it.
Speaker 3:They're gonna do it. They've been working on it for decades. They're they already know they can do it if they release that. They already know it's there. You know it's already been going on for a long time and the the dairy farmers have done so much to push it. You know autonomous production Because you don't have the workforce anymore, you don't have the big families, you don't have the people work on the farms. Now they got they got the milkers that grab the cow and when the cow walks up to it it milks it automatically and attracts it off. The barcoding Crop farming and all that is. It's not easy. There's obviously a ton of obstacles. There's a reason why it's taking this long, but it's gonna happen. We have to let it happen, and not only autonomous farming in that aspect, but vertical farming where you do an indoor organic growing.
Speaker 4:Most of that is autonomous.
Speaker 3:And then now, with the legalization of marijuana in a lot of states and that's gonna keep going You're gonna have a ton of autonomous farming just from that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's absolutely true, so that's a good point when I heard autonomous and especially good points today, by the way, and I'm on fire. I don't know. What you're on today must have something to do with you actually reading the articles ahead of time.
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Speaker 2:Tito's an ocean spray. Thanks for all you do for America. World runs on a button, absolutely so. I got a good quote here from Jamie Hyman. He's the vice president and CTO of Deer Company. He's been there since 2020 building up John Deere's tech stack. His quote is actually really nice. It says here ever since the steel plow, we've had one goal in mind to help farmers do more with less to meet the basic needs of our ever-growing population. And I think that you know what you're speaking to is real. We have a Higher population, higher human population than we've ever had on this planet, so there's an increased demand for food, but every year it seems like there's fewer and fewer people willing to go to work to make that food exist, to bring that food into Existence. So how do we continue to feed seven, eight, nine billion people who don't want to work?
Speaker 3:Here's a material I the soiling green is coming. Oh yeah, we cannot continue. Well, it will come if we cannot figure autonomous farming out. We talk about this all the time. People that don't want to work, willingness to work, find good help. Engineering can't solve workforce issues. They can't create a workforce out of engineering. You can create AI, you can create robotic help, but a workforce still has to exist. The biggest problem with this and it keeps creeping up year after year after year is the few can't support the many when it comes to workforce. You can't have a select group of people deciding how things are going to go.
Speaker 3:The workforce as a whole, forever. The working man has always dictated that. That goes back Egyptian time. We're going to build a pyramid. We don't know how many people were going to kill the Greeks, the Skids, to move the blocks and put them up there. Even then, the workforce dictated their actions because they had to, out of fear, rule them. The masses did that. Today we have all these issues. The middle class is a constant revolving thing where the middle class is in trouble and a shifting of wealth and a shifting of what it takes to get by. I look at my older parents now and the dollar that they valued is not the same dollar today. Their values from before are not the values of today. Not good or bad. I'm saying they're different. It's a shift.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're not making a judgment, we're simply acknowledging the change.
Speaker 3:Yes, autonomy has to happen to help even that tide, but you still have to have people to help sort it out. We keep talking about this over and over again. It's not going to fix itself. Anybody that's working today and works hard at their job understands what we're talking about. This is why the unions keep getting stronger. This is why good union members, their utilization and their dispatch rates are so high because they're the ones that want to work or the ones that even show interest, that want to be trained, are out there working. That's right.
Speaker 3:I was just talking with somebody about this today and they were so proud. Their youngest son came to them and said hey, I'm going to go to this vocational school for their junior and senior year. Then they were like what do I do after that? The junior and senior are the things easy, it's guided. You go to high school, you go to the vocational school, it's all laid out for you. He was talking to me about it and we're similar in age. He says I looked at my son and I said you can go anywhere you want, he goes.
Speaker 3:That's scary because that's a hard thing to guide. You can go into all kinds of technological, mechanical work that requires both. You can do aviation, you can do aeronautical, you can work on SpaceX and go to space. You can work on farming equipment, construction equipment, trucks you really can pick your passion. Today, I think, as we're talking about this and we're getting off the rails, but when we're going through school, and before us too, when college was all the craze and there were guidance counselors dedicated to helping people find their thing that made them tick and guide them into a college course, we are going to have to spend more time in this country capturing the minds of the younger people and guiding them into their possible career realms.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, we have a whole generation of people and, unfortunately, a whole generation of quote unquote career counselors who firmly believe in their heart that it's their job to get kids into college.
Speaker 3:That's the way they were brought up and that's what they're staked their career on.
Speaker 2:That's my point. I think that now we've come full circle on this and we've said look, college is great for a certain kind of person who wants to do a certain kind of work, but if all you have is a generation of marketers and intellectuals and academics, none of the real work is getting done Right. And the real work of moving the waste, the real work of moving the dirt, the real work of putting up the houses and homes, getting electricity out there, putting food on the table, is not being done because we have a whole generation of pseudo-intellectuals who are willing to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to get a piece of paper that tells them that they know how to analyze William Shakespeare. And I have a ton of respect for those guys. I have a degree in philosophy, I have a degree in finance, a degree in philosophy, and one of them I did for myself and one of them I did to earn, but I had to pay for the other one. That was something I wanted to do.
Speaker 4:Sure.
Speaker 2:I had something that was going to feed my family and put food on the table. So it's definitely a generational thing and I have to say I'm proud of your friend's kid too. I think that's a really smart move. I think there's a lot of kids who neglect the trades and even where they're available right now. You know, I've got kids in school. I've got young kids and I've got older kids in college and younger kids, you know, going into middle school. And where we are, these kids have a hockey team, they have a swim team, we've got a beautiful pool, we've got a great facility for them. There's, you know, athletics, there's the math league, there's all kinds of computer labs, but there's no auto shop, there's no metal shop. My kids can't make that choice and I wish that they could.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and we're going to do a whole.
Speaker 3:Our next episode is going to be about that, because we need that and we need agricultural sciences, we need the auto shops, we need the woodworking, we need the basic stuff.
Speaker 3:Where you're back there tearing down your neighbor's lawnmower because it died and he gave it to you, we need that excitement of the unknown. That's right and that's going to be our next segment and I hope everybody anybody that's listening to this, you know, tunes into it, because the show Dirty Jobs right, he's been a huge proponent of all of this and he makes great marketing saying that you know, we spent generations telling people you don't need to do that, you need to go to school and look when we put ourselves in a hell of a box. And I just think you know a lot of these problems stem from this right to repair. Right to repair stems from the fact that we're out of qualified people to work on stuff and then they've lost faith in the people buying it. And then look at what we just talked about earlier, with the financial potential impact of what if it doesn't all run and it's all sitting in parking lots.
Speaker 2:That's right. How are you going to make that bill pay? You know there's a lot of people and this will be the last thing. We'll close it out. But I love the idea. We'll do a show on education and the trades. I think that's a great way to do this.
Speaker 3:But I want to get a part of heavy equipment as anything else.
Speaker 2:Absolutely it is. It's, absolutely is. But one last thing I want to point out back in 2016, 2017, elon Musk and you know I'm no fan of Elon has nothing to do with electric cars. I love electric stuff. I'm just not Elon fan Elon made this point that he was going to build a robo taxi, an autonomous vehicle, so you could buy a Tesla and at night you could go to sleep and have it go out and act as an Uber or as a Lyft and it would go around on its own and be a taxi and generate income for you while you slept.
Speaker 2:And a ton of people invested money into that con artists idea because they believed that this is something that's coming. It's absolutely not. But on a farm where there's no cross traffic, there's no, you know, basketballs and little kids chasing out, running out in between cars to go get the basketball. There's no random cyclists who believe that they own the road because they've got their little spandex suit on, this could really happen. This is really going to work. I think Deere is going to do a tremendous job with this and, assuming they lose the right to repair everybody, who's going to be able to crack open one of these Deere's and is going to figure out how to get these things running. We're going to have some good farms, so this has been great stuff. Tune in for the next episode with Mike and Joe. Thanks for playing babies.
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