HEP-isode 4 | $3B Collaboration, the Pork Chop Express, and Grilled Cheese

In this HEP-isode, we talk about the multi-billion dollar collaboration between Cummins, Daimler, and Paccar/Kenworth, Toyota's utopian hydrogen factory at the Port of Long Beach, new advanced in microwaved food technology, and Tiger's latest upgrades for aging airport equipment. Also: Arnold's nude scenes better be CGI in this next one!

Transcript

Collaborative Efforts in Heavy Equipment Industry

Jo Borrás 0:10

Whether we're exploring the latest in trucking technology , talking about the trends that propel the industry forward , or uncovering stories about the dedicated individuals who keep the wheels of America turning , this is where the roar of the engines and pulse of progress come together . It's sublime , it's surreal . That's the Heavy Equipment Podcast with Mike and Joe .

Jo Borrás 0:36

Episode four Welcome Michael . How are you ?

Mike Switzer 0:42

Doing good , joe , are you doing ?

Jo Borrás 0:43

it . I'm doing all right , a little bit later than our usual shows , a little bit later recording , not quite late enough for HEP After Dark , but that's coming soon . We'll be doing that in Las Vegas next May , but today we're going to be covering the news , and there's a whole lot of really important news in the heavy equipment truck space , and I can't think of a bigger story than this . Cummins , daimler and Pekar are going into a joint venture . They're spending a billion dollars each . They're going to own it 30 , 30 , 30 . And they're going to be making their own LFP chemistry , electric truck batteries in North America . So this is huge because it's a lot of jobs it's worked in North America . But I think the most important thing is that you now have this huge , huge chunk of the industry that's basically going to be on standardized batteries , right , and it's kind of like building a product for AA batteries . You're not designing your own battery for your thing , you're just using an off-the-shelf battery and that's just got to make this so much easier for everybody going forward .

Mike Switzer 1:49

Well , what needed to happen , and I think it's awesome that you got three . I'm going to sound like Macho man . I heard three awesome Three . Yeah , we're going to end up in the ionosphere . This is what's going to happen .

Mike Switzer 2:02

No , but it's true , you've got three really , you've got three powerhouses of technology that are working on this , and I think it's amazing because you have to have this kind of collaboration . Otherwise , what's going to happen is like we talked about earlier the sustainability goes out the window and everything is just I'm on my own . Look at what I've got versus everybody else . This is actually a move towards . We're all in this together . We're all going to make this thing work and we're going to figure it out . I think we have to . It is a fleet manager . I'm looking at this going okay . Well , now this has legs . This is moving . This is something somebody believes in . This isn't some guys rewiring a bunch of old welders into the back of a semi truck in somebody's garage ?

Jo Borrás 2:46

Well , that's happening too .

Mike Switzer 2:48

We'll talk about that episode 90 . Yeah episode 90 . But I mean , I just love this .

Jo Borrás 2:53

So you know I'm looking at this and I thought of you when I was writing up this article , because I got the press release a couple days ago . Of course I was thinking of you , man .

Jo Borrás 3:03

But you know I was looking at this thinking . Imagine if you had , like a Western Star Hall , or you had some kind of Cummins generator or some vehicle that was using the Cummins powertrain . You had a couple of Sprinter vans out there that were running parts back and forth and they all used the same battery . You could store one of those batteries , keep that in inventory and if any of them had a bad battery or a light went on or whatever , you could swap the battery out and then submit the battery for warranty and keep going . You wouldn't have to order some kind of specialized part . Cummins is backordered but Daimler can get the battery , but it's not going to go into the thing . I just love this kind of standardized stuff . And you said it perfectly we're all in this together . We're moving it forward , but at the same time you got to look at what Nikola is doing . You got to look at what Tesla is doing . You know Volvo and Mac . They're on their second generation . They already announced their third generation electric semi . Yeah , I actually ordered the .

Mike Switzer 4:04

I ordered the copper bulldog off of one of those . That's common . But yeah , I'm actually . I want to go to Allentown and look at that and I'm trying to . I'm talking to those guys about running out there . Oh , I'll go with you . They've been trying to get me out there for a while .

Jo Borrás 4:17

I want to play in the sandbox .

Mike Switzer 4:17

Allentown's sweet , they have one of the best test facilities I've ever seen where customers can go to . But anyways . But what it does is see . With that it adds validity to everybody else's efforts to get Nikola , you got Mac , mac , volvo . I always say no , jesus Christ , I give the Red plate 9 out of 10 . With this kind of collaboration Again , not everybody's got to be on the exact same battery part or the exact same , but this consolidation of everything , this is where we need to be .

Jo Borrás 4:46

But this is how it starts . They're going to get other people come on board with this , maybe BYD , one of the other , you know , maybe Toyota Hino , maybe Hyundai , because Hyundai's got heavy trucks overseas , so that might be something that brings them all together , and the new Medium Duty Mac that they released , which they , you know they had had for a while .

Mike Switzer 5:04

they kind of phased it away and then it came back and it's gaining a lot of popularity . It has Cummins power in it . Now that might be strategically done so that things like this could happen . As the marketplace consolidates all this you know Medium Duty Truck Technology we're trying to get as much Medium Duty stuff out there as we can and it makes sense . Well , here we are . You know , now you got a partnership with the Volvo Mac and then Cummins . Well , now you roll this into a battery operation and start Amazon taking advantage of some of this stuff . Some of the private fleets that are leased to FedEx are taking advantage of it . So I think it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out , if they can gain any traction with the electric power cell and some of the Medium Duty stuff too .

Jo Borrás 5:47

Yeah , that's going to be huge . I was at ACT earlier this year the American Clean Trucking Expo and advanced Clean Trucking Expo , I apologize , so you know and Cummins had their 15-liter motor , the one that runs on hydrogen , and everything else there , but they I did see a couple of Medium Duty vehicles that were running electric and they were running this Cummins Accelera battery . So I'm wondering if this is just going to be we're all going to use this Accelera battery or if this is going to be something different , a little bit different operation . And you know , time will tell . So what they've done is they've basically signed an LOI , a letter of intent . They've got the agreement going . They need to get it passed through government . There's got to be some kind of approval here that they're not you know , they're not a monopoly , right , because they represent such a huge percent of the market . And I think what they're going to show is look , you've got Tesla projecting that they're going to have 150,000 semis on the road in the next five years . You've got Volvo's sales projections saying we're the only ones right now who have a second generation truck that can go . So they're looking at that and they're pointing at that and saying no , no , no , this isn't collaboration . This isn't , you know , some backroom deal . We're doing this in the public and we're going to get it going and I really hope they do , because I think this is going to be .

Jo Borrás 6:59

I think it's just good for the country . You know , we talked about this . You and I remember that Mexican restaurant in Akron we were talking about . We need to bring this stuff back and we need to bring this kind of manufacturing and this kind of I hate to use the expression blue collar because it makes it sound like it's . You know people look down upon that expression , but you need to be able to have the kind of jobs throughout the country that can support a family and can support a community , and this kind of thing brings that back , instead of buying batteries overseas from China and bolting them into a frame when they get here . This is an assembly thing . This is real manufacturing , and I'm here for it .

Mike Switzer 7:36

Well , look at what we're doing with . You know , ford's got their investing billions of dollars in North America . Right now You've got the Intel plant which , even though it got scaled back , that project's going up again . More work for the , you know , for North America You've got companies like Volvo , mac and then you get Cummins , and that they're just constantly reinvesting in North America , which is amazing , because this is where we need it . This is where we need it .

Mike Switzer 8:01

We need it here because for us to continue on this March , for everything that we're doing , we have to have the jobs . We have to have it here with people want to have it sourced . It also makes it available for any kind of federal public works . So if you're going to be selling to anybody that's federal and they demand a US source product , you have that going for you . This isn't easy to do and you got to give them a lot of credit because , like you said , they're investing billions of dollars in this . They're bringing it here . They could just as easily having some village put this stuff together , which you know , years ago was , you know , some of the big business model which , like we're going to find the cheapest labor possible and tell them what to do and they're just doing it three million times .

Jo Borrás 8:43

Right , that's how you got . You know , whatever they called it , the Ford Transit that was being sold in the US , that was being built in Turkey , was being shipped over with no seats to avoid the chicken tax , and then they were putting seats in it that were made in Alabama or something . It was real weird and it was all done to save a couple pennies here , a couple pennies there , and then you know , we had a ship go sideways in the Suez Canal and that took everybody's just in time . Well , it's out now , but yeah , it took everybody's time delivery .

Mike Switzer 9:13

That's what we were down .

Jo Borrás 9:14

We were down one ship went sideways and billions of dollars went away .

Mike Switzer 9:20

So what they were digging it with was just a couple shovels and some spoons . They're out there with these little excavators trying to get the tail of this thing moved out . They're trying to go hard a port . It ain't going to happen .

Jo Borrás 9:29

Well , the thing that was so crazy was you were looking at those videos . I think it was called the Evergreen or something . It was just so massive and you're looking like what are they ? What is that little yellow speck under there ? That's like an excavator the size of your house , but it just looks like nothing next to the shack Exactly .

Mike Switzer 9:45

You know one thing we could do a whole segment on the MacLR . The MacLR is really cool 100% electric . It's got 42% more energy than the standard 376kwh . So you know , you put this thing in a trash compactor scenario , some kind of a recycling thing in your neighborhood . This thing is going to cruise around . The only thing you're going to hear it do is clank into bottles and stuff as it dumps the trash into it . Yeah , that's it .

Jo Borrás 10:11

Or if you have , like , a hydraulic on the arm , you'll hear that hissing and whirring every once in a while . But even that , you're not going to hear the brakes like it used to , because it's using regen braking . It doesn't have that loud hissing , squealing brake thing , yeah , and listen to this .

Mike Switzer 10:24

The other thing that they got that's really interesting about this is they put two AC motors in there to provide 536p horsepower . The thing about 536p horsepower that is more than what the Pinnacle product that they sell makes with the conventional Mac engine in there . Yeah , and it makes it at 0 RPM instantaneous . It's instant , and that's what a lot of people , I don't think , realizes that when you're talking about electric and you're talking about what this can do , you're exactly right . You need power and torque from 0 to get moving . Right . It provides it . Now , yeah , you're not trying to wind the thing up , you're not scaring the neighbor's dog off the front porch , you just got it . It's going to quietly move around . It's very interesting . It's very interesting .

Jo Borrás 11:12

No , it's going to be really neat . We have one of those . Lrs has one of those here in Chicago and I'm convinced that it's going to eventually kill me because I just walk right into the alley because I don't hear it , that arms going to grab me and launch me into the back . That'd be last year . Hear me .

Mike Switzer 11:29

I don't know .

Jo Borrás 11:30

So it's 17 . Live from the back of the dumper . I hope I'm not going into the incinerator , boys .

Mike Switzer 11:37

No , it reminds me of a Terminator when that , when they , you know , time travel and the guys out there dumping trash with the , with the old international thing and old start and his orb appears out of nowhere . That's what Max trying to do . They're trying to bring the Terminator .

Jo Borrás 11:52

So we want to see Arnold in the nude again .

Mike Switzer 11:57

Again , again , yes .

Jo Borrás 11:59

Yeah , that's a let's hope that CGI now , because it's been a while .

Mike Switzer 12:06

Well , I think stuff's a lot lower than it used to be .

Jo Borrás 12:09

Yes , I think that could be said of all of us . Oh my gosh , Okay , a similar front we're not going to talk about . You know green stuff and hippie tree hugging , nonsense the entire show . But this one is also interesting . At the same time that Cummins , Daimler Packard doing all this , I always want to say Packard Kenworth . I don't know why . I know that that's a brand of theirs and I shouldn't say that . It's like saying Ford Lincoln all the time , GM , Cadillac or whatever , but Packard Kenworth , get over it .

Mike Switzer 12:43

Peter built up some Pete Pete's going to show up . Let's kick your ass , man .

Jo Borrás 12:48

I know , I know Peter built builds great trucks and I love them . But I don't know man . The Packard Kenworth just has a nice ring to it .

Mike Switzer 12:56

Well , you know who put Kenworth on the map Bert Reynolds , jerry Reed Smoky and Abandoned . Everybody knows what Kenworth is from that .

Jo Borrás 13:04

I want to ask you this , and this is a serious trivia question . I do not know the answer , but you know the answer .

Famous Trucks and Toyota's Hydrogen Plant

Jo Borrás 13:11

What kind of truck was the pork chop express ?

Mike Switzer 13:15

Oh , it was a freight liner , classic , conventional , yeah , like a mid 80s Actually that trucks for sale in Europe .

Jo Borrás 13:22

I know , but it's big money .

Mike Switzer 13:24

Yeah , it's big money . Big money to move it over here , but that would be cool to come rolling down through . Find some old .

Jo Borrás 13:30

You know a lot of guys who roll that thing down Chinatown , jam it into some alley . The Wing Tong are here .

Mike Switzer 13:39

China is here , Mr Put .

Speaker 5 13:41

You just listen to the old pork chop express here now and take his advice . On a dark and stormy night when the lightning's crashing and the thunder's rolling and the rain's coming down and sheets thick as lead , just remember what old Jack Burton does when the earth wakes and the poison arrows fall from the sky and the pillars of heaven shake . Yeah , jack Burton just looks at big old storm right square in the eye and he says give me your best shot , pal , I can take it .

Jo Borrás 14:11

So the pork chop express . If you don't get that reference , you really don't need to be listening to this show . You should go find another show that you'll enjoy .

Mike Switzer 14:18

If you don't get it , the minute you Google it , you'll know exactly what we're talking about .

Jo Borrás 14:22

Yeah , exactly . But I think it's just wild to think of all these really classic trucks that are in movies . We should do that . We should do famous trucks of movies right . We're going to do the Green Goblin from Maximum Overdrive .

Jo Borrás 14:36

Optimus .

Jo Borrás 14:37

Prime , the old Freightliner FL-86 cabover , the original Optimus Prime .

Mike Switzer 14:41

The original . Yes , it was a Freightliner as well . Yeah , the original . Yeah , the old Freightliner cabover . Well , you know what Cabovers ? You can't make fun of those things . The maneuverability it's the size of a small Manhattan apartment . You , right there , you've got the doghouse next to you , you can eat dinner , you can put a tablecloth over top , lean up against it , put your shoes in there .

Jo Borrás 14:59

Man , we're never going to get to this Toyota news . I really want to get . Wow , have you ever seen the ? I know you have . I think they're called the NR's . It's a little a Suzu cabover diesel medium duty .

Mike Switzer 15:10

Oh yeah , the NPR , the NPR , that's it . Yeah , it's a little bit like when you took the cab forward out and you're you know , when you're working on it it looks like a bunch of cows grazing .

Jo Borrás 15:18

That's exactly it . I had one of those as a rental that I was pulling the Get out . No , we had , because we had the John Deere Gator up at .

Mike Switzer 15:26

Oh yeah .

Jo Borrás 15:29

So we had the Gator . We put it into the back of this thing because we had to get it to the dealer . So we rented this you know whatever U-Haul Penske operation was up there up in Wisconsin and we just pulled this thing into the back of the box and drove it to the dealership . And I loved this thing , man , like I kind of want one .

Mike Switzer 15:49

Their maneuverability is second to none , and the fact that makes a Suzu , you know a very strong leader in that part of the market is that they never break down . You should see it . These guys beat these trucks up and down the road all day long .

Jo Borrás 16:03

Well , that's a duramax .

Mike Switzer 16:04

Yeah , well , then before that they had the Suzu powertrain in the NPR and then , you know , gm had that , and those trucks are phenomenal . And there was something else , too , that I was looking at the other day . A bunch of landscapers had them and they had them way overloaded and they were creaking and groaning going down the road , but it was still doing it , and these are from the 90s .

Jo Borrás 16:26

Oh , yeah , yeah , no , those , those Asusas are great little trucks , but anyway , well , actually it's funny we're talking about Asusas because GM and Toyota both have a stake in Asusas and Toyota finally has their hydrogen plant up and running at Port of Long Beach . So the water , seawater , is coming in . They're electrolyzing .

Mike Switzer 16:44

But that's just working . So they got the seawater coming in . Yes , the seawheed and all the other , you know washers and bolts and pieces and parts from the things dropping off the boxes , yeah , I don't even know if they're doing that much to it .

Jo Borrás 16:58

I think it kind of comes in and then they electro zap it with high voltage AC current . It's it splits the water . So you end up with hydrogen gas , yeah , and you end up with , you know , basically drinking water and then the wastewater . The waste product is still down there .

Mike Switzer 17:17

So , in a utopian environment , we could take in the the seawater , build fresh drinking water which is only obtained in large lakes , and then we could fix the world's fuel energy crisis and provide fresh drinking water to the entire world .

Jo Borrás 17:32

That is the utopian promise and up until a few days ago it was all talk . It was just like , hey , this is what we're going to do and we'll see . And now it's up and running . Till you just got it there , the Port along Beach , I'm actually going to fly out there and go take a look at it once . They kind of open it up to people and tours and stuff and I just I'm excited about it . You know , in a way that I didn't really expect to be , because I have always been suspicious of hydrogen . It's sort of like , you know , solid state batteries or artificial intelligence or the self-driving car . There's a lot of promise , there's a lot of people talk about it , but you know , it's always two years away . Right , twenty sixteen , it was two years away . Twenty twenty three , it's two years away . Well , apparently not Apparently , they've been running it since Monday .

Mike Switzer 18:20

And the thing is , though , when you get out there . So they got to get the the beach bums stop washing their laundry and water intake .

Jo Borrás 18:26

No , those electrolyze really well . Hmm , hey , you can you get some of the homeless in there ? Zap them with 40,000 volts and you get an extra gallon of gas . Yeah , a couple tide pods were all set , but I think that's why they were trying to train us all to eat the tide pods a while back , sort of like Soylent Green .

Mike Switzer 18:46

We're all out of Soylent Green for today . We only have some tomorrow .

Jo Borrás 18:52

Yes , there were other colors , right . Soylent Green is people . Soylent Blue is like I don't know , shitsues or golden retrievers or something .

Mike Switzer 18:59

Is that what it was ? I never watched the movie . To be honest with you , I've never seen you never watched , I've never seen that . I've never . I don't know why . Neil , actually , who's going to start doing the sound bites and stuff for us ? He got , he's got , gotten all into that .

Jo Borrás 19:13

Yeah , I'm going to have to send it to you . I don't know where you'd find a DVD player , but I have a DVD in that movie that I'll send you a DVD player . You're really . I watch a lot on there . I tried to buy a DVD player a while ago and I couldn't find one . I was like , well , this is weird .

Mike Switzer 19:27

Walmart was running a deal on them . They were HDMI for about $20 .

Jo Borrás 19:31

Oh yeah , I'll go , I'll go snag one of those . We're way off base .

Speaker 4 19:35

I was so , but we you got a lot to edit out .

Jo Borrás 19:37

We got a lot to edit out . That's fine . We like editing . That's what we do here . That's the whole point of this hobby . And , you know , maybe we'll run an old vintage Toyota commercial right now and Jason .

Mike Switzer 19:47

Sandborn Chase , we're rolling right into it .

Speaker 4 19:53

The other woman . She's nice and she really cares about his dinner , about him and about his coffee . That's why she starts his morning with Jason Sandborn , the heftier coffee , heftier flavor , heftier aroma . But there's still the kind of woman who serves whatever , sandy , are you this woman or the other woman ? Jason Sandborn , the heftier coffee for the other woman who really cares .

Jo Borrás 20:22

Now that we've exposed ourselves to good old , mid-century , modern violence and sexism , let's talk about this grilled cheese sandwich coming out from Lunchables .

Mike Switzer 20:33

Well , you know , it wasn't being made next to a pot of fresh coffee . No , it was not , rather , it is cool .

Jo Borrás 20:39

So it basically the people behind Lunchables . We all know what Lunchables are . We're all millennials and Gen X . We were raised on the things . They have created a new kind of almost like Uncle Ben's Boiling Bag Rice , a new bag that you put a sandwich into and you microwave it and the bread comes out crispy Crispy . And I know this is a stupid thing and it's weird that we're talking about it on a heavy equipment show . But we have talked time and time again about how horrible the food choices are out there , how hard it is to find decent food , and if all of a sudden you can make yourself a decent , halfway healthy sandwich you know whether it's grilled cheese , ham and cheese or whatever in the microwave , that some of these trucks have a microwave in them . Yeah , you know , you can now have decent food . You can pack yourself something decent . Eat a little bit healthier on the road . I think that's hugely important .

Mike Switzer 21:34

Well , it is , and that's what exactly .

Mike Switzer 21:36

What I was going to say is that you know , we've been talking about food choices and here's something that this technology I mean , if they have it , it's called 360 Crisp , so they use a strategic venting and various heat points and then that way they can ensure that it's cooked and it's crispy and you know , when you pull it out there you get toasted bread , and if they can do it for that , you know this is going to happen for other things . And so this is the , this is the tester , the guy , the guy climbing out of his freight liner cab over looking for some old rim to flip over and make dinner out of , you know , was going by the wayside . As long as we can make this work , that , actually what's cool is this is probably going to store very well and just about anything that can keep it cool and keep it fresh . If you're out on the road for the week or two weeks or whatever , you know , it's like MRE is just filled up to sleep or full of them , and each your way in and fall asleep .

Jo Borrás 22:28

Yeah , that's exactly what it's going to do , and then you'll be able to have you know again . There's going to be variations on this right , like when the Lunchables first come out , it was just turkey and cheddar and then it was ham and American in this net . There's going to be variations on this . There's going to be ham .

Mike Switzer 22:42

There's making your own hummus with these things . You're making your own hummus . You're just doing all this up . I mean , have you looked at the Lunchable section in a store that really , really promotes Lunchables ? You have to push the cart down it . You're not at Entomans . At the end of the aisle bud , you got a whole section dedicated to all these food choices . There's Nintendo shaped , you know , crisps and all this other stuff . That's all in there . And then you know , the other thing that I saw the other day goes along with this is there's a bunch of individually packed , sealed like pickles , all kinds of produce that I've seen at some of the stores . Now , for you know , if you're just running in there to grab something , you wanna open it up . This is these are other good options that can also be available on the road . Just gotta get them there for people so they go in . It's like , oh , this is cool , I'll eat this and go through there ?

Jo Borrás 23:31

Yeah , 100% , and you know we're starting to see that . I recently found a website . Actually , someone reached out to me and turned me onto this . It was called Food Dive , which number one . I was shocked that we had listeners , so that's kind of awesome , and both of you guys , if you're there listening , thanks for listening . Yeah , they turned me onto this and there's a whole section there called Food Tech and all they talk about is new kind of new advances in the food and convenience store angle . So they talk about you know , pepsi has a new brand of water that has all the electrolytes and everything of Gatorade , but without the sugar . I think that's awesome , because you know it's hard to stay hydrated and just drink water all the time when you're on the road . Like this . Coca-cola is coming up with some new flavors that are based on artificial intelligence .

Mike Switzer 24:19

There's no way that's gonna end up positive but no , no , we're all gonna end up looking for the city of light .

Jo Borrás 24:25

That's exactly .

Speaker 5 24:28

Oh , my God .

Mike Switzer 24:30

I'm sure Coca-Cola company Windmurse with Pepsi and they bring all production of anything that's drinkable with AI technology under one roof . That could never go bad .

Jo Borrás 24:41

Wow , I , I have nothing for you , I think .

Mike Switzer 24:46

Coca-Cola . We could go down to Atlanta , georgia , and we could talk to them about their packaging creation and talk about maybe some more sustainable ideas for guys on the road .

Jo Borrás 24:54

Well , we definitely need to do that , and I think you know we keep coming back to this All services yes , no , but this is a real , real issue . Look , the trucking industry has a massive labor shortage , and it is not just behind the wheel , it is people behind the wheel , people working at the docks , people working on the cranes , people servicing .

Mike Switzer 25:14

It's everybody involved , everybody involved , everybody involved . You get the people stuck at the desk who are trying to figure out what loads and how they're gonna dispatch people . It's everything . It is a blue , collar , white collar everything .

Jo Borrás 25:26

Nobody wants to be a part of this real business

Electrifying Luggage Carriers at Airports

Jo Borrás 25:29

To me . I have this friend of mine , dan . He turned me on to this idea . I asked him what he did because it's you know , we're Americans . Eventually , when you're getting to know somebody , you say what do you do for a living ? You know you always , this is a standard request .

Mike Switzer 25:41

It is a standard , yeah , it's a standard byline , you know . So what do you do ? Yeah , exactly .

Jo Borrás 25:45

I gotta tell you . You never asked me what I did , which I really appreciate .

Mike Switzer 25:49

But again , I think you already knew I don't wanna go . I think I knew you , for this guy's got enough . This guy brings enough knowledge with him right to the table . I don't wanna know where he got it from , do you ?

Jo Borrás 25:58

see the way this guy rolled a pizza up into a burrito and just ate it . No , it's incredible . We don't have that kind of technology . We need to hire this man . No .

Mike Switzer 26:07

Just hold that away from the turbo . That's all we need . You don't need that . Hold that away from the turbo .

Jo Borrás 26:12

We don't need that thing to suck up a pepperoni , destroy a $30,000 engine , build . And I'm sorry man , but did you see how they curled up into those little cups ? I love that . That's how you know a quality piece of Roni . Why are we like this ?

Speaker 4 26:30

I swear , you know why .

Jo Borrás 26:32

Because , we're recording late , but that's okay , it's gonna be Actually this is better .

Mike Switzer 26:36

I think we just go . I think this is better , we just keep going .

Jo Borrás 26:39

We'll do these at two in the morning .

Speaker 4 26:41

Yeah .

Jo Borrás 26:42

So heard that Johnson Rod was in there . Complete ridiculousness and insanity . It would be , but anyway , oh . So interestingly enough , as we're talking about these food choices , I do have a contact that loves now who's gonna talk to us ? So we'll be getting them on , we gotta figure out how to have guests on the show , especially at two in the morning .

Mike Switzer 27:07

Well , I think we just invite them . They get a couple of time slot options . We got all kinds of stuff going on . It's like , well , you get to happen in the morning , half after lunch , and then you got it half after dark . Just keep hitting the beeps , just keep hitting the beeps .

Jo Borrás 27:26

Yeah , the last one had 11 beeps . That upset me .

Mike Switzer 27:29

That wasn't too bad , I was fine . We'd still be on NBC . We'd still be on .

Jo Borrás 27:33

NBC . We'd be on USA Network with full frontal nudity .

Mike Switzer 27:37

I feel like David Letterman , why ? Just like I just flipped the mic , I was like , is this thing on ? What are we doing ?

Jo Borrás 27:42

Paul Schaefer . We are getting to an age where the Pork Chop Express , Paul Schaefer and David Letterman are not universally known figures . There are grown adults who were in grade school the last time David Letterman was on TV .

Mike Switzer 28:00

Oh , I know . And then you know , I said something the other day referenced Johnny Carson , and a young mechanic looked at me and he goes what are you talking about ? I literally threw my phone up under the counter and walked away . I said I don't know . I don't know . I said . I said I'm going to put together a list of required watching . It's going to take exactly 10 years nonstop and you are going to get caught up to where we need you to be . Let's say exactly .

Jo Borrás 28:24

If you can't do this , you're never going to be management . That's right . But there had to be stuff like that from from our parents , right that we just never understood . Like I don't know , like I feel like I was forced to watch Lawrence Welk , paul Anka , but I think it was forced upon me whether I wanted it or not .

Mike Switzer 28:42

Well , you know , dancing in the rain , walking in the dark , holding hand in hand , that's the way .

Jo Borrás 28:48

That is the way . Just remember , ginger did everything Fred did , except backwards and in heels .

Mike Switzer 28:53

That's right , so anyway . Well , I mean anyways , what were we talking about ? We got way off track there .

Jo Borrás 29:00

I don't know . I think we're still talking about Susie W .

Mike Switzer 29:03

We're talking about electrifying the luggage carriers at the airport , oh that's right .

Mike Switzer 29:10

The reason . Actually , this segway is really good into it because so a lot of the the tuggers that are used at the airports they're old Like a lot of that stuff has been around for many decades . Yeah , they never break down and when they do , there's really not a lot of good options . You know , I was on a flight one time and I was flying up from North Carolina and I was sitting next to a guy that sold those . He would , he had retired . So I'm talking to him . He's like 40 , 48 , almost 50 years old and I said you tired , he goes .

Mike Switzer 29:40

Yeah , I sold , I sold all of those east of the Mississippi . My other counterpart sold them in central , the central us and the other guys sold on the west coast . He goes , they never break down . We never have any issues with them and we all retired because we sold to everybody . And the point of that is they're aging to a point where they're gonna need work . Yeah , so if they have a sustainable option like this and then you can put it out , you can put an electric cell in there , we call it whatever you want to do . This is amazing because you can charge the thing anywhere in the airport . But we talked to the guys from wave . They could put the embedded charging right into the concrete out there as the thing is going around .

Mike Switzer 30:21

That's right and they put it right there at the other .

Jo Borrás 30:24

It'd be on at the same spot every time and it's just getting a little bit of juice . Well it's . They're getting loaded and unloaded and it's more than enough juice to go from there Back to the terminal , back to the next airplane .

Mike Switzer 30:35

They never , have to stop this thing and then okay , so then get the technology involved , the caterpillars working with Across the globe now in mining , and you get the thing where it autonomously just works itself back and forth , back and forth to these checkpoints . They're located off the wave platform , in the concrete . Next thing . You know , this thing's literally unless , a unless a pilot comes cruising in , you know at you know 55 mile an hour , with one too many . You know , roman coach , before he lands .

Jo Borrás 31:06

He's not . None of this is gonna have an issue at the admirals club for six hours delayed comes out staggering to the cockpit .

Mike Switzer 31:13

You know right . Yeah , he's a wave . We lost a motor . No , it'll turn up .

Jo Borrás 31:19

You know , like we've lost engine four . It's somewhere , don't worry . Are you a pilot ?

Mike Switzer 31:25

too . You know , like this is Club one time I liked it in there is all these pilots standing around and I'm talking to the guys and we're talking about planes , landing gear and all this other stuff . And the guy goes Do you work here ? No , but it sounded good , didn't it ?

Jo Borrás 31:44

Let's go and Well , that's the , that's the miracle of business , right ? Is that you know it's . As long as you , as long as you feel like you know what you're talking about , you can just kind of go with it and get in anywhere .

Mike Switzer 32:03

It's funny , I'm not even I'm not even a member , so I shouldn't be in the thing . But I followed him in , I got oh yeah , up in this crowd and all these guys are going with the bags .

Mike Switzer 32:12

To be bluntly honest , I may or may not have been following something that was appealing and I and I literally found myself in this room and I'm like , hmm , this is not baggage . Claim six , zero , cell two oh , this is no thanks for the drink . I like this . I just walked up , just hands me the drink . She's like oh , thanks for stopping it .

Jo Borrás 32:34

I Was planning on stopping it , thank you Once you back that thing over here to gate five . Oh , I'm sorry , it's Mike's white there , it's gate nine . Oh , stop , all right , all right , all right .

Mike Switzer 32:46

Geez .

Jo Borrás 32:51

It just gets worse and worse . Well , that's the show for today , people . Thank you so much for tuning in , and be sure to join us next time , when It'll just get worse and worse . I can't promise you anything .

Jo Borrás 33:04

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